I remember the IBM AS400

August 15, 2017

I remember the IBM AS400

By NickLitten

August 15, 2017

as400, IBM, IBM i, iseries

The AS/400 does not exist anymore

Discussing a data interchange process with a software vendor today (who shall remain nameless), they told me:

… our product talks to AS400 but I don’t think it has experience of iSeries or IBM i….

Customer Support Bloke for XYZ Company


I am not telling you the company name because I don’t wan to  to embarrass them in public… but if you call your IBM i system an AS400 then you are an idiot in need of enlightenment

This is a rough history. Hope it helps:

  • The IBM AS400 hardware with OS400 operating system was nearly 30 years ago! When it died it was replaced by the…
  • The IBM ISERIES with i5/OS operating system was around 15 years ago! When it died it was replaced by the…
  • The IBM Power System with IBM i operating system has been the market leader for 10+ years

/me mutters ‘DUH’ and slaps himself on the forehead

What is an as400 and how is it 25 years old

IBM have manufactured many diverse computer systems over the years… the IBM AS/400 (Application Server 400) was the model they released following the massive success of the IBM System/36 and System/38. I remember when I first got to play with my first ever AS/400 model — the B30 — it was this kind of huge super computer, the size of a room, all shiny and white like a prop from ‘2001 a Space Odyssey’. This mystical machine was connected using a cool network concept called ‘Twinax’ which eventually lost out to the cheeky competitor — Ethernet. The AS400 could talk to its usual dumb terminals and even… shock… *talk* to those modern things called ‘personal computers’.

A glorious *OLD* AS/400

The AS/400 was cool modern and futuristic. It was around for a few years, enjoyed major success but as hardware abilities bloomed, it was soon upgraded and replaced by its successor the IBM iSeries in the late 1990’s. Yep — over ten years ago (nearly twenty years ago).

I am perpetually amazed by the amount of IBM i Developers out there that still call current IBM super computers ‘The 400’ – as if using an old antique description for the machine will make it more mystical. Do these same guys call there current cars by the names of a model from the 1980’s?

What is an IBM AS/400?

Lets get one things clear – Nobody uses an AS400 anymore!

If you are still using an AS/400 system then it must be 25+ years old. If you are still running an old AS400 system then it is using an antiquated operating system invented before Microsoft Windows, before the internet, before google/facebook, before smart phones, before your gray haired IT department had gray hair 😉

Just to clarify, the IBM AS400 was the IBM minicomputer sold in the late 80’s with its operating system called ‘OS400’. The AS400 was a huge success and lasted just over ten years before it was replaced by its successor the next generation ‘IBM iSeries’ in 1999/2000.

The new millennium saw a leap in hardware technology and the AS400 was finally upgraded, and replaced by the much improved ‘IBM System i’ five years later around 2005.

The platform has continued to evolve and a few years ago (2008/2009) the current generation of the machine was released, called the ‘IBM Power System’ running an operating system called ‘IBM I’ (but also now capable of running Linux or AIX or any combination of these operating systems on the same physical box running in logical partitions).

So, the AS400 is dead… Long dead… Decades Dead.

But the Great-Grandson of the AS400 is called IBM i and it lives on stronger and more powerful than ever!

IBM i is a super-powerful operating system that enjoys modern full facetted interactions with every other operating system on the planet. It runs on a new breed of hardware (IBM Power System) where even the weakest Power Server blows the old AS/400 hardware away.

OK… *phew… lets turn <rant> mode off and show you a pretty graphic of the heritage of this awesome computing platform and how AS400 evolved and then was replaced:

I remember the ibm as400 1

Although this machine — the market leading and uber-modern IBM Power System — has a hardcore set of wrinkly, sandal wearing, 1980’s music loving wig-wearing aficionados who insist on trying to mystify this modern machine by using an archaic name of its predesessor from the last century (to try and make it sound complicated and mystical) just ignore them and look at them as you would a kindly old bemused grandparent.

I remember the ibm as400 2

When you hear someone in IT say ‘The 400’ or ‘AS400’

Tell them “Listen Grandpa/Grandma – Perhaps you’re a bit confused. That big black computer isn’t an AS400 it’s an IBM Power System. Calling a Power system an AS400 is like using a top of the range Windows Web Server and calling it ‘The DOS PC’. It’s not the 80’s anymore Gramps…

Then make them a nice cup of Horlicks and take them off to the spare room for a little afternoon nap

  • Terrific article. I’m still using an I and find it the most rock solid system available. Also almost hack-proof that EBCDIC ain’t no ASCII!
    Just wish someone would offer an emulator for single users doing work at home.
    Also Eclipse is too darn expensive!

  • You have good points. But I do know of a genuine AS/400 (a Model 170 which is admittedly a RISC machine running V4R5) still running for production today. And with 3 of 4 of the original disk drives!

    My complaint is with IBM marketing. A Honda Civic has the same name it had in the ‘70s. It does look like the IBM i name has some staying power, which I like.

    • I actually spoke with an old colleague of mine last week… when I say OLD I mean 20+ years ago… and *he* is still using an old AS400 @ V5R1 for his consultancy work. Just goes to show how awesome this old hardware is…

      I agree with you totally on the IBM marketing plan. Personally, I think they should have rode the coat-tails of the excellent AS/400 History and called the new machine an AS/500 😉

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